Epoxy – a warning

 Epoxy is the magic ingredient that has allowed many of us less than perfect joiners to create functionally sound boats, it corrects a multitude of sins and sticks like the proverbial, but like all magic potions has the potential to turn on and damage the user. The following cautionary tale is of Ian’s experience working with Epoxy. Having seen at first hand just how quickly Ian’s system responds to exposure I can only echo his concern that Home Boat Builders need to take great care with this stuff. Most of us are lucky enough to appear unaffected by Epoxy (I have had eight years exposure with no effect – so far) but I do wonder what might be going on unseen. – Chris Perkins

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Epoxy – my story.
OK, before we start this is not aimed at anyone in particular but is simply aimed at you – the potential user of epoxy – and will illustrate what can happen if appropriate precautions are not taken. If you are a member of the yahoo forums you will find me as ianhurley20, why? It’s simply that I used to own an old Hurley 20′ yacht. It was in poor condition, cost a lot for a mooring, cost a lot to crane out of the water so I decided to build my own boat – but which one?  There are a lot of different types and designs but I needed it to fit my garage and be trailerable to avoid mooring fees.

What type of construction then? I was taken by the relatively new stitch and tape construction method using Epoxy glues. The line in the instructions that said ‘dimensions and fits are not critical and gaps in construction are filled with epoxy filleting’ impressed me. I chose a Selway Fisher Lynx 14.
I sourced the marine ply from C F Andersons and Epoxy resins from UK Epoxy. Andersons provided BS 1088 marine ply at the best price I could find and UK Epoxy as the price seemed reasonable and Rob Hewitt was very helpful on the phone about my requirements. The build started on 31/5/07 and my first exposure to the glue on 8/6/07.

Butt jointed hull panels

I first butt joined the hull panels with epoxy. I was very unsure about the strength of the glue at this stage. I went on holiday and returned a week later to find amazingly strong joints. I was not working at this stage and my wife worked mornings until lunchtime so each day I would start at about 0830 and work up until lunchtime. The work progressed at a tremendous rate and I soon ran out of resin. I ordered more and continued with the build. At this time my main protection was wearing 3 pairs of vinyl gloves (if contaminated with glue the outer pair could easily be removed turning them inside out at the same time). Since my garage is not a big one I always had to work outside as the boat filled the garage. This provided ample ventilation.

Moveable Trolley

I built a wheeled trolley on which to build the boat so it easily moved in and out of the garage.

On the 19/7/07 I had my first reaction. I had been working in the hull and had installed frame B, frame C and the two bilge cases the previous day.

Basic Hull on the Trolley

Basic Hull on the Trolley

Bilge cases installed

Bilge cases installed

Frames B,C and Bilge cases installed

Frames B,C and Bilge cases installed

 It involved lots of clambering in and out of the hull and a number of mixes of thickened epoxy glue. My face and arms went red and very itchy and my face also became swollen.

 

 I took photos of all the safety labels and went to see my Doctor. He examined the photos of the labels and said ‘these mean nothing to me’! 

 

 
Warning label - Resin

Warning label - Resin

Warning label - Hardener

Warning label - Hardener

 I was prescribed some antihistamine tablets and some hydrocortisone cream. I left the boat completely alone for a while. I got better. I decided to improve my protection. A filter mask, Tyvek suit and gauntlets as well as the vinyl gloves were now the minimum.
Upping the Protection

Upping the Protection

 I did some sanding of the epoxied hull and reacted again. I contacted Rob who suggested a barrier cream – which made no improvement.
Whilst looking for barriers to the epoxy I found a nuclear/ chemical/biological protection suit on ebay. It came with a hood that had a blower system that kept a supply of filtered air coming into the hood. There were neoprene seals at the cuffs and neck and ankles with a fixed overboot for feet and a plastic glove for the hands. This together with gauntlets and several pairs of vinyl and nitrile gloves were now my barrier.

Even more protection

Even more protection

 Working outside I now managed a period of reaction free time. BUT – the glue eventually got through again. Wherever possible I now tried to use a polyurethane glue such as Gorilla glue or Balcotan. At the end of October the weather made work on the boat difficult and I was now back at work so the boat rested in the garage until 5th May 08. By now I had only to sheath the upper hull and cockpit, sand and paint the boat. I took the greatest precautions I could. I had changed to MAS epoxy. With every pack that they send out is an information booklet. One of the articles in it details the dangers of epoxy and minimum precautions to take. I wish I had had this when I first started, I would probably have taken much greater precautions than I in fact did. MAS is the only supplier of epoxy I have come across that warns fully of the dangers and I feel that epoxy suppliers do not do enough to pass the warning on to customer, after all why should they? They have used the substance for years with no reaction! This time I immediately reacted. I gave away all of my stock of epoxy to another boatbuilder. But now I had a boat to sand and paint. I now discovered that the paint, a one pack polyurethane paint from Jotun, also caused a reaction. This was nowhere near as bad as epoxy but still to be avoided.
It was frustrating to get the boat so near but be unable to finish it.

Sanding just about done

Sanding just about done

Painted at last!

Painted at last!

Then a volunteer came to my aid and spent almost a week sanding and painting the hull. I was then able to bolt fittings onto the hull and on 26/7/08 the boat was launched on the Norfolk broads.

Launch Day - worth it all?

Launch Day - worth it all?


What next – well nothing, the boat has gained a nickname of ‘Never Again’. My sensible option might well have been to give up at the first reaction and you may say that stubborn determination is my main problem. What I would like all you prospective boatbuilders to do is to take considerable precautions. Latex gloves for example allow all the ‘nasties’ through and then trap them next to your skin so ideally use nitrile gloves that resist chemicals to a greater extent. A suitable mask and a suit that is not a paper one should also be worn. Don’t work indoors if at all possible. And if I ever build another boat it will be ‘Never Again II’ and will not use epoxy glues or polyurethane paints.

Ian Ruston

Responses

  1. check out entropy resins, it’s a bioresin with natural resin and epoxy as the base. depending on the application, the bio content is as high as 70%, and they take some extra measures to reduce the anime of both resin and hardener. the stuff is top notch, i’ve built surfboard and composite bikes with them after using both west, rr and mas for sometime.

  2. [...] } Much has rightly been said on the allergenic risks of using epoxy in home boatbuilding, I think there is a less publicised health risk. The prospect [...]

  3. Epoxy has long been documented as potentially hazardous, but even so there has been little publicity of the hazards, and they are not widely known.

    As an occasional user I confess that I have been content with just latex gloves, and have not had a problem, and there are others who have had no problem; whether that reflects differing personal levels of use or differing tolerances I don’t know, but there are undoubtedly professional boatbuilders who use the stuff and presumably don’t have a problem. However I also read a couple of years ago of one professional boatbuilder who had had to change his career because of his intolerance to the material.

    Another concern, which was prominently highlighted by Yachting Monthly some thirty or so years ago, and I can’t now be certain whether it was for epoxy or polyester resin (and both were around at the time), is the risk to eyes of even the slightest contact with the hardener. Apparently the risk is that even just a minute drop of hardener in the eye sets off a progressively increasing and irreversible and untreatable destructive reaction, which after running its natural course is likely to result in severe vision impairment if not blindness. The recommendation is therefore to wear adequate eye protection at all times.

  4. For yet another good epoxy safety guide……

    http://www.westsystem.com/ss/general-safety-guidelines-2/

    Best, Ole

  5. p.s. Also congrats on a cool looking craft and sharing your story. Best, O

  6. Good day,

    Also want to congratulate Ian for perseverance… writ large. As retired forester, I have some background in toxicology and PPE (hold
    pesticide consultants licenses). PPE has saved me from injury more than once. The times I was accidently exposed to chemicals, I was not wearing adequate PPE, or not following directions or not fully focused on the task at hand. Luckily the doses were not highly toxic. But, epoxy resins are very chemically reactive, that is why they stick so well. The stuff is not library paste. My policy with hazardous stuff, including petroleum products; purchase and wear good PPE, stay calm and focus stepwise on the job at hand. I also like to keep an unopened gallon of bottled water in the shop for immediate eye or skin rinse before I can get into the house for longer rinsing. Axiom; every chemical is potentially toxic; its just a matter of dosage. The MSDS sheets (Man. Safety Data Sheets) _are_ useful. And some doc’s do lack knowledge in this area. Not sure about Britain or other parts of the world, but locally we have a 800 number poison control hot line staffed by nurses that I was relieved to be able to access twice in 30 years.

    Be careful and happy building and sailing.

    Best, Ole

  7. FYI site from Canada on epoxy hazards;

    http://www.crosslinktech.co/health%20&%20safety.htm

    Am considering building either Tirrik or Ness and want to thank all for good comments and photos.

    Best, Ole Helgerson

  8. I am glad you found it useful but a pity that you have had similar reactions Peter. MAS epoxies are the only supplier that I have come across that adequately explain the risks and the precautions to take. I wish all suppliers did the same preventing needless suffering. A Hazchem label is not enough!
    Ian

  9. excellent article i have just finished a boat under similer circumstances and had the same bad reaction to epoxy. i wish i had read your article first. while the manufacturer do warn you of possible dangers it needs to be stressed more for amateur builders. if i ever use it again i will be very carefull. thanks Peter.

  10. Thanks for taking the trouble to but this information out.
    I and a friend are about to embark on refurbishing a boat and we will be using epoxy glues are thet have such a good write up in the boating press.
    I agree with you that the dangers should be publisied so we can make informed decisions. We will “proceed with caution”
    Thanks Tony


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